VERY STRONG! May have smoked too much as I do not smoke very often at all. Probably my lack of tolerance made this strain too much for. However, I would recommend to an experienced smoker who's looking for a strong strain. Also note that it creeps up on you or at least it did me. I vaped using a Da Vinci Ascent and it worked great. Just too strong for me. btw, I vaped less than a gram/half a nug. Hope this helped.