In this bonus ep, Leafly’s David Downs talks with legendary musician Carlos Santana about music, cannabis, San Francisco, and Santana’s new cannabis brand, Mirayo.

As a child, Carlos Santana watched his mother use local cannabis herbs to make homemade topical salves. “Once I learned what I learned from mom, and then the things that I learned in the Haight-Ashbury from the Hippies, then I realized that there were two different frequencies on this planet: the frequency of self-deception; and the frequency of self-discovery,” he told Leafly.

Mirayo is the next step on his journey of self-discovery.

Carlos Santana: choose between “self-discovery or self-deception”

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