Grown it from seeds, most trash strain I've ever grown in about 10 grows. It just doesnt get through flower. SHAME. I had 4 strains next to it, I trashed the 12 Josh D OG, first time i ever do that. I never had a plant die on me. Believe me, this is straight trash. I understand better why this strain is 1 or 2yo, a hype name, and still no report on her / no hype around her. It's cause it's one of the worst strain you could ever buy. I'd rather grow random seeds on greenhouse / random bag seeds for real. If you buy these seeds, pure waste of money. I rate it 0/5.